Egg-Factor

Posted by: @Kimbo

I've got the whole egg powder now, which I'm using mixed with egg white powder for my protein shakes. Extremely nasty tasting, by the way - I will definitely mix the egg in with micellar casein and/or WPC in the future. Anyway, guess we'll see how it goes. If I notice any huge changes I'll be sure to report back.

I hope it goes well. Taste of the powder was something I hadn't thought of, though... I hope it tastes better mixed.

Posted by: @RepubCarrier

I hope it goes well. Taste of the powder was something I hadn't thought of, though... I hope it tastes better mixed.

To be honest, I think it's the egg white powder. I remember tasting it when I'd get a protein blend mixed up, but it was subtle because of all the other stuff in there.

Posted by: @Sub7

OK, sorry. I now reread the beginning of the thread. IMO, the egg yolk route is not really worth it. You will save some money but trust me yolks will get extremely tiring to eat -they did for me when bulking with eggs. We are also talking about 1200+ kcalories just to be able to get the AA and DHA (even if you don't eat the whites). If bulking, this may be somewhat OK but you're really going to have to force yourself to be able to eat anything else after downing so many yolks. When cutting, I don't know what you can do as you will have received almost all calories from the yolks alone. Also considering that eggs are not for free, I don't this is worth the $50 or so in savings, just my opinion...

I think its somewhere closer to 500kcal, if not lower. Dont have time to calculate, but an entire egg having 70 calories makes me doubt the 1200 figure.

Posted by: @Sub7

I may be wrong here but this is how I got the figure: One medium egg yolk has 6 grams of fat and 3 grams of protein, giving you around ~70 kcal. I do not know how large an egg we are talking about when we say "12-13 large eggs" in the first post but I think we can conservatively increase the caloric content estimate for one large yolk to ~80 kcal. 12 or 13 yolks multiplied by 80 kcal is around 1,000 kcal and this is assuming you throw away every single white. Thus far you got zero carbs and most likely you will need something starchy to be able to work out. You really will have a hard time eating much else on a cutting diet.

Sub7

http://207.106.34.114/egglandsbest/nutrition.asp

A medium egg yolk doesn't have that many grams of fat or protein. An entire large egg has about 70 calories, with about 55 calories coming from the yolk. 55 * 12 = 660 calories, or 840 if you ate all the whites. This is no doubt large, but ultimately worth it (if these results pan out beyond n=2), especially when you consider the high quality of the egg protein.

So that's 4x12 = 48g of total fat. Not so bad, assuming you stick to lean meats and watch your fat intake for the rest of the day. Also consider that 12 whole eggs contains 72g of protein, so you're meeting a big chunk of your protein requirements for the day right there.

Here's the thing - when's the best time to get the eggs in? Post workout? Having read some of the AA threads, it sounds like you'd want to do the following (assuming you train in the evening):

During the day: regular meals + fish oil
Workout
Evening: eggs

Posted by: @Sub7

Also, I have been looking at threads and logs on a number of forums and cannot find many people satisfied with X-Factor. Was this product maybe marketed under a different name or perhaps not advertised properly? For some reason, peope either ignored it or disliked it, I guess...

I think lots of the lack of feedback is due to its price. Molecular reps say it is pointless to only buy one bottle b/c at about the 20 day mark is when people start noticing gains so it requires two bottles to see benefits from it. At ~$50 a bottle, many are hesitant to spend ~$100.

Also, lots of people seem to always buy from one co. (ex: Controlled Labs, DS, even MT) and honestly I don't know of another supplement Molecular makes since they did away w/ protein powders.

Posted by: @Kimbo

So that's 4x12 = 48g of total fat. Not so bad, assuming you stick to lean meats and watch your fat intake for the rest of the day. Also consider that 12 whole eggs contains 72g of protein, so you're meeting a big chunk of your protein requirements for the day right there.

Here's the thing - when's the best time to get the eggs in? Post workout? Having read some of the AA threads, it sounds like you'd want to do the following (assuming you train in the evening):

During the day: regular meals + fish oil
Workout
Evening: eggs

I either took all 12 pre-workout (which was a bitch) or took 7-8 pre and 4-5 post workout. On off days, I either was lax and didnt get all 12 or just ate them throughout the day.

I think (based on what little I know) that AA is released during a workout for its anabolic/inflammatory effect, and so you would want AA levels to be elevated already once the workout has started. It makes sense then to consume the eggs 1-3 hours before working out, or at least some/most of them. There could easily be a rationale that opposes this, because I havent really researched or planned out the timing of this at all... perhaps someone who has already done so can comment, or I'll go try and find something useful maybe.

Scramble em. Mmmmmm...

They would probably be okay up to about 5 days or so boiled. Just a guess though.

hey dudes. I eat eggs post-workout... ill consider making them pre-workout too. I buy a lot, I got 120 very large eggs last week.

I also eat heart, Aeternitatis - indeed just today I bought 12lbs of lamb hearts!!! thats a shitload of hearts haha, ill count them later

Posted by: @rock_ten

I also eat heart

Everyone, this is OK. [he's from birmingham]

Posted by: @Proton Soup

, 100mg of whole egg has only 37mg of 22:6 n-3(DHA). Or was the aim to get more AA without the DHA?

did you quote that right? If so it's 1/3rd DHA by weight.