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Great Read! Great info! Thanks!
heavyiron's first cycle ever~2008
Thought I would share what guys like me were taking back in the late 80's.
Stats
I was 20 years old and had trained a few years off and on. I weighed a little over 200lbs. I never used any steroids previously. I did high volume, high intensity training.
My first cycle
All doses are approximate as I injected every 3 days the entire cycle.
Week 1 400mg Test C
Week 2 600mg Test C
Week 3 800mg Test C
Week 4 1 gram Test C
Week 5 1,200mg Test C
Week 6 1,400mg Test C
Week 7 1,600mg Test C
Week 8 1,600mg Test C
No PCT. LOL!
I loved my first cycle. I had zero problems and gained huge. I lost little to no strength afterwards but did drop about 10lbs in the next 2 months.
8 weeks off and then I jumped back on again. =)
wow thats heavy lol
Nice first cycle man
A member who has run 4 previous cycles asked me to put together a cycle with Test E, Tren Ace and Dbol'>D-bol. He wants to keep the Test dosage reasonable and frankly with this combo it will be fine and very effective to do so. The following cycle is one of my favorites. Testosterone, Trenbolone and Dianabol are powerful steroids when taken by themselves but when combined they are amazingly powerful.
*This cycle is for experienced users*
Week 1-6 500mg Test E
Week 7 750mg TE
Week 8 1 gram TE
Week 9 1 gram TE / 350mg Tren Ace / 25mg D-bol daily
Week 10 1,250mg TE / 350mg Tren Ace / 25mg D-bol daily
Week 11 1,250mg TE / 350mg Tren Ace / 50mg D-bol daily
Week 12 1,500mg TE / 350mg Tren Ace / 50mg D-bol daily
Week 13 350mg Tren Ace / 50mg D-bol daily
The D-bol and Tren Ace (100mg eod) is added at week 9 just about the time gains begin to diminish in a standard cycle. This timing is critical to "push" gains so do not alter the timing. Notice the D-bol and Tren extends 1 week past the higher dose of Testosterone. This is purposeful to keep gains rolling while the higher dose T Enanthate is clearing. Basically gains should continue through week 13 with this setup.
You may immediately enter a cruise of 250mg weekly of Testosterone after this course or go into PCT. If you choose to cruise begin the 250mg of T at week 13.
I would use Aromasin in the manner you describe in your PM (12.5mg daily) and any other ancillaries you need.
Nutrition is critical at these higher doses so make sure you are getting plenty of clean food. With nutrition, training and recovery dialed in you will do very well on this course.
OK question about this cycle. What is the main reasoning for the higher T dose than Tren? There are so many conflicting thoughts on this, it seriously makes my head spin!! lol Also what are your thoughts on Front Loading the Test then boosting back up after week 8? IE
Week 1 - 1g Test E
Week 2-8 - 500mg Test E
Week 9 - 1g TE / 750mg Tren E / 60mg Tbol
Week 10-16 - 750mg TE / 500mg Tren E / 60mg Tbol(until week 13)
HCG 500mcg x2/wk starting week 6
Asin 12.5mg daily
Caber .5mg x3/week after week 10
Thoughts? Thanx for the great info...
Danm just saw this I love these layouts thanks heavy and your a genius!!!!!
So would you recommend a sust/tren ace/ dbol cycle like the one mentioned as the test/tren/dbol?
Its always nice to see things broken down like this and that it has been properly tested. Thank you
heavyiron's first cycle ever~2008
Thought I would share what guys like me were taking back in the late 80's.
Stats
I was 20 years old and had trained a few years off and on. I weighed a little over 200lbs. I never used any steroids previously. I did high volume, high intensity training.
My first cycle
All doses are approximate as I injected every 3 days the entire cycle.
Week 1 400mg Test C
Week 2 600mg Test C
Week 3 800mg Test C
Week 4 1 gram Test C
Week 5 1,200mg Test C
Week 6 1,400mg Test C
Week 7 1,600mg Test C
Week 8 1,600mg Test C
No PCT. LOL!
I loved my first cycle. I had zero problems and gained huge. I lost little to no strength afterwards but did drop about 10lbs in the next 2 months.
8 weeks off and then I jumped back on again. =)
Iron, this cycle is a MONSTER bro, lol! How much weight did you gain if you recall??
This is a great post.
Iron, this cycle is a MONSTER bro, lol! How much weight did you gain if you recall??
I gained about 30 lbs in 8 weeks if memory serves. I'm an easy gainer though and back then could pack away serious calories. Obviously this was not all LBM.
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Excellent post. Many thanks.
Thx
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Crazy high lvls. Thx for the info. This is good stuff.
When I take tren ace I see amazing gains and increase in strength the first few weeks and very little at the end. I was thinking of pyramiding the tren while keeping the test at 600. Maybe start at 50mg then 75mg, and finish at 100mg eod. Does that sound about right?
When I take test close to 1,000 mg per week I start to turn into a pervert, although nothing gives me rage. So I usually keep test around 600 on cycles. Does anyone else ever have this problem?