[Sticky] First Cycle and PCT~2025

hi mate,
you cycle looks watery
change test enanthate to propionate
u can leave deca for joint protection(lubrication)
take winstrol oral or anavar

Way too many products for a first cycle!

Giz, I suggest you stick around and read some info people have to offer.

way too many products for a first cycle!

Giz, i suggest you stick around and read some info people have to offer.

yep!

I say start with labs, then if warranted/desired do a 10+ week or so cycle of Test Prop and Exemestane. I'd go 75mg Test Prop SubQ ED and 12.5 Exemestane PO ED. Cut back the Exemestane to 12.5mg PO EOD if you have joint pain or if your 4 week labs show your E2 is too low.

This was my first cycle and I bulked to a very nice 240! (From 220)

To be quite blunt the most important thing you need to dial in are #1 NUTRIENTS! #2 WORK LOAD! #3 SLEEP & REPAIR!

Read, Read, Read, and Welcome Aboard! You're In The Right Place!!! :winkfinger:

thanks everyone (for the quick response and welcoming). it's too many products because it's maybe my first cycle, but i intend it to be my only one.
my bones are very narrow (was 90 lbs at the age of 17-18, only 6.5 inch wrist around), so i'm worried about my joints...they already hurt when i train.
have already ordered my AA's, but saving my PCT's, AI's and SERM's for the next order.
are they OK? should i also be using hcg throughout my cycle, or will i risk too much estrogen? should i get Caber just in case ?
i read a lot (and English is not my first language). i thought the arimidex will keep me lean through the cycle, the T-bol is supposed to help too (correct me if i'm wrong). i'll keep my diet with low carbs and many proteins+ i am lean by nature.
thank you guys, your really helping a worried person 🙂

thanks everyone (for the quick response and welcoming). it's too many products because it's maybe my first cycle, but i intend it to be my only one.
my bones are very narrow (was 90 lbs at the age of 17-18, only 6.5 inch wrist around), so i'm worried about my joints...they already hurt when i train.
have already ordered my AA's, but saving my PCT's, AI's and SERM's for the next order.
are they OK? should i also be using hcg throughout my cycle, or will i risk too much estrogen? should i get Caber just in case ?
i read a lot (and English is not my first language). i thought the arimidex will keep me lean through the cycle, the T-bol is supposed to help too (correct me if i'm wrong). i'll keep my diet with low carbs and many proteins+ i am lean by nature.
thank you guys, your really helping a worried person 🙂

if its your first cycle at all
i suggest to use only oral one product for a bit , by not giving a shock to the body
than have a rest and on second cycle add one more product witch would be injectable

if its your first cycle at all
i suggest to use only oral one product for a bit , by not giving a shock to the body
than have a rest and on second cycle add one more product witch would be injectable

yeah, but it will also be my only cycle (in my life). i just need 15 more pounds and i'll be happy. because i'm a very slow gainer (very thin by nature), i gain maybe 5 pound a year.
so shouldn't i do a serious cycle (like i suggested). will it harm me somehow? are my AI's, SERM and PCT looks OK ?

yeah, but it will also be my only cycle (in my life). i just need 15 more pounds and i'll be happy. because i'm a very slow gainer (very thin by nature), i gain maybe 5 pound a year.
so shouldn't i do a serious cycle (like i suggested). will it harm me somehow? are my AI's, SERM and PCT looks OK ?
i still would recommend to take few cycles
just do gradually as its better than take more in one time as its only your first time and thats how ull keep everything in place and less harm
do not rush
many thanks

yeah, but it will also be my only cycle (in my life). i just need 15 more pounds and i'll be happy. because i'm a very slow gainer (very thin by nature), i gain maybe 5 pound a year.
so shouldn't i do a serious cycle (like i suggested). will it harm me somehow? are my AI's, SERM and PCT looks OK ?

Read Read Read Read and get info from the guys with tonnes of experience here.

A single compound cycle will give you all the growth you could possibly want. Almost anyone with sense would go with Testosterone Propionate and Exemestane for their cycle and then use hCG and Tamoxifen Citrate and Clomiphene Citrate for their Post Cycle Therapy so they completely recover.

Don't make things worse by rushing into something just because you've heard or think it will work... Biochemistry isn't like that...

Read Read Read Read and get info from the guys with tonnes of experience here.

A single compound cycle will give you all the growth you could possibly want. Almost anyone with sense would go with Testosterone Propionate and Exemestane for their cycle and then use hCG and Tamoxifen Citrate and Clomiphene Citrate for their Post Cycle Therapy so they completely recover.

Don't make things worse by rushing into something just because you've heard or think it will work... Biochemistry isn't like that...

thanks. since it is my first cycle, i want to inject less frequently....will my cycle be more realistic (and safe) if i'll just drop the Deca out of it?
will the pct stay the same after? is it still too much?

thanks. since it is my first cycle, i want to inject less frequently....will my cycle be more realistic (and safe) if i'll just drop the Deca out of it?
will the pct stay the same after? is it still too much?
If you are only doing one cycle then here's a simple one that will meet your goals. 750-800 mg Test E weekly for 10 weeks. Use an AI like Arimidex at 0.5mg 3-4 times weekly.

PCT is Clomid at 50 mg daily for 4-6 weeks.

Thanks for the great post! Very Helpful