2 things i gotta say about Fina!!

Fina diffuses into your bloodstream and gets into your lungs. This causes the cough and nasty taste in your mouth.

careful bro

About 4 weeks into it the progesterone hit me hard and caused gyno, and I was only 75mg eod. I was also taking 50mg/day of winny with it, but it still gave me gyno. I think I am prone to it though..so just be careful and wait awhile before upping the dose.

yeah bro, the stuff is awesome...i'm on it right now! you get that cough business by getting some in a blood vessel...bound to happen sooner or later, you'll see...

YEAH!! I KNOW DAT COUGH.SHH I USED TO GET THAT EVRY TIME WHEN I WAS ON DAT SHIT..HAHAH. I ADMIT THOUGH WAS GOOD IT GOT ME HARD..I WAS STACKING IT WITH EQ...:D

Most likely the instant pump you're feeling cyc, is the suspension. That shit gets in your blood like now. But, I don't know shit, so I won't elaborate on suspension.....bwwhhhhhaaa.

Actually, it's the high level of BA used to convert that fina that you're tasting and that gives you that cough. If you just put it in the muscle... it takes the BA a good 3 days to diffuse at least so you shouldn't have a problem. You probably got a bit of that into a vein.

Cutmothafucka, it wasn't the fina that gave you the gyno. Tren binds to the progesterone receptor as an antagonist... so it prevents gene expression. It is similar to winny in that respect. You could almost use tren to prevent gyno from abombs or deca like you can do with winny... but it doesn't bind to the PR as tightly enough to be effective. There must have been something else in your cycle that caused the gyno problem.

Originally posted by Tadger
Actually, it's the high level of BA used to convert that fina that you're tasting and that gives you that cough. If you just put it in the muscle... it takes the BA a good 3 days to diffuse at least so you shouldn't have a problem. You probably got a bit of that into a vein.I've used alot of gear with high ba content and never once got these symptoms. Animals kits do not use ba and still users report fina cough from using his products....as well as actual brands of tren made from powder where the ba content isn't that high. I'm not saying your right or wrong...just giving my two cents.

Originally posted by Tadger
Cutmothafucka, it wasn't the fina that gave you the gyno. Tren binds to the progesterone receptor as an antagonist... so it prevents gene expression. It is similar to winny in that respect. You could almost use tren to prevent gyno from abombs or deca like you can do with winny... but it doesn't bind to the PR as tightly enough to be effective. There must have been something else in your cycle that caused the gyno problem. Now that is interesting Tadger....any studies or pubs to help prove that? I've never heard that before.

Originally posted by buffdiggity
Most likely the instant pump you're feeling cyc, is the suspension. That shit gets in your blood like now. But, I don't know shit, so I won't elaborate on suspension.....bwwhhhhhaaa. Yeah your right....the fina has nothing to do with it.

But then again maybe he drank his suspension. LMAO.....INSTAPUMP!!

tadger...the cycle consisted only of fina and winny. I've dropped the fina and it is now getting back to normal. Where did you get that info from? Im curious so I can look into it more. I would love to be able to run fina in almost every cycle, cause i loved its effects...except the gyno

I don't know where Tadger got his info, but fina most certainly will cause gyno. It is the increase in progesterone levels that induce the gyno. This is exactly why one should take winny with fina. The winny will act as a progesterone blocking agent for the fina.

Peace: TooBig

I think fina is the SHIT! I love the stuff. It would have to rank #1 on my anabolic list. And it's versatile enough to use in almost any kind of cycle you can think of. It's the most anabolic thing I know of. I use it in every cycle I do whether it's a cutting or bulking cycle.

The info came from a pharmacist buddy of mine. He's been in the game for a while and has plenty of first hand experience... before he decided to become a pharmacist even, so he's not biased like most docs. I'll see what studies he can dig up for me though. I myself, don't have access to too many medical studies at the moment... kinda in the middle of moving... not quite set up for all that at the moment.

TooBig, I don't know where you got your info. Where does the progesterone come from? Please... enlighten me.

There is no increase in progesterone levels. The aromatase does not yeild progestins, just estrogens. Additionally, trenbolone is a non-aromatizable steroid. Tren can and does cross bind to the progesterone receptor... but as I stated before, it binds as an antagonist, just as winny does. Even if it were to bind as an agonist... it has very poor affinity to the progesterone receptor, so it wouldn't cause much of a problem unless you were shooting quite a bit of it.

Cutmothafucka, even if the fina were to cause the gyno because of binding at the PR... you were running winny at the time. Winny has a very high affinity for the PR. This would prevent the fina from causing much if any protein synthesis anyway. This is why winny is so great at fighting gyno from nandrolone. There must be something else causing your gyno problem.

I know what you mean though... tren is great stuff. It's one of the strongest anabolics out there, on a mg/mg basis. If you want to run it again, try using GAC Humatren or Equitren. Nice human grade stuff. None of this homebrewed or converted fina pellet stuff. It costs a little more, but it's well worth it. It's clean, has low BA content, and the dosage is right on.

Um... in reference to the 'fina cough' stuff... Animal himself is the one that told me about the whole BA cough. I did a little research... and BA will cause you to cough. I don't know what all is in the fina pellets themselves that could cause this same cough... but it's not the tren. Maybe its one of the binders or fillers. If you use Humatren or Equitren you get no fina cough... even if ya get some in a vein.

Great info Tadger....I'm gonna be doing Fina shortly on my next cycle...75 mg/day - can't wait!

MAYBE IT WAS THAT FINA /PROP MIX THATS GOING AROUND
40MG FINA/40MG PROP!!!!!